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and said, “What do you think of Mrs. Rosenberg's appointment as Assistant Secretary of Defense?” I said, “I'm sure that General Marshall knows her abilities.” I chose my words very carefully. That sounded all right. I had to rely on him. He knew what he wanted her for. I certainly respect his right to have just exactly whatever he wants in the way of assistance.

She's not an adventuress, really. She's a very strange mixture of things. I would say she wanted money. You don't make money in the government, but she made it on the outside. She's the only person who was ever permitted to hold two jobs - a government job and another one. I don't know how the Attorney General made the ruling. I never have understood it. She had a job in the Social Security Board's New York office and another one. By this time she had become acquainted with Beardsley Ruml and the Macy outfit and they had taken her on as a labor relations adviser, her only experience being what she had learned in the NRA, whatever that might be. But she was smart, managed things, played in with the unions, and so on. At any rate, Ruml was backing her. Ruml is very much of a fox. The thing he wants is never the thing he appears to want. He wants something else always. So the Attorney General ruled she could hold those two jobs. How





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