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somebody else, gave a dinner for me where I sat next to the Governor. I remember that.

George Googe and Stephen Nance, local AF of L officials, had been in Washington and had been breathing ill will toward me and all hands, which came to me through the AF of L circles. Probably Miss Florence Thorne, or Miss Margaret Scattergood, or Boris Shushkin, or somebody, pipelined in to Mrs. Clara Beyer, or Mr. Lubin, or somebody like that who came and told me. There was always somebody who would come and tell you every disagreeable thing that was said.

So I got somebody at the AF of L to call for me. It may have been John P. Frey, or perhaps would more likely have been Harry Bates. It was one of these people at the AF of L, with whom I had already established very good relations. I called on one of those and asked him to get in touch with Steve Nance and George Googe, who were the two I understood to be leaders of the AF of L movement in Atlanta. I was going to Atlanta and I wanted my business there to be profitable for all hands. I wanted the labor people involved in it.

At any rate, they came up to Washington and came over to see me, brought by one of these men from the AF of L - I guess John Frey. We had a talk. I explained everything I wanted to them. They were both men of the deep South -