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He knew Mary. He was a very tentative fellow. He was a very modest fellow. He hated to introduce himself. He hated to push himself. So he asked Mary Rumsey to introduce him to me, as he wanted to talk certain things over. I found in him right away a very intelligent and conscientious, although somewhat complicated, man. He was a nervous, tense person, with high ideals, but sort of haunted by fears that he couldn't do certain things. I think he was over-modest. He didn't have the self-confidence that you think of as going with a great industrialist. He was a very nervous and tense person. He was a very, very clear thinker and one who did not overlook the place of the feelings and the emotions in human action. So he would never have been caught in a purely logical trap. He always knew that people will only act in conformity to a pattern that, at least, they can feel right about, will only act when their emotional promptings are harmonious with the logical action that is being proposed.

He at once saw the value of this suggestion I made of code committees. He grabbed at that at once. Although he could agree to this idea that there had to be a standard pattern and that these mills could not compete with each other to their mutual destruction, as they had been doing, he recognized the unwillingness and the reluctance of the human being to agree to any such pattern. He saw that the





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