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that the resistance of the employers to meeting with the representatives of the men has been cracked to the axtent that you are now meeting with somebody. You are not the union, I know. The men you're Working with are not the responsible top employers. Nevertheless, a negotiation between psrsons who speak for the union and persons who are the employers' men is going on. That's a terrific advantage. A few months ago I didn't see how it could be brought about. But things are near the cracking point. I'll tell you this. You have learned to take Frank Murphy for granted, but I know Murphy very well and talk to him every day, and his patience is at the breaking point. He isn't going to stand much more. He can't stand much more. After all, he's the Governor of the state. He's an elected officer of the stave. He has an cbligation. What's more, he has a political reputation to preserve and to protect, and he undoubtedly has political ambitions. You can't expect him to go to the stake for this kind of a thing, which is improper. You know it's improper. You've told me yourself it's improper for them to be staying in the factories and that they should leave. You'll have to send Pressman out to break it down. Tell them they have to go back to work. Let them go back under their own steam, if they want to, without being asked to. But