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outfit that they can join. There is a local International Longshoremen's Union of fice, but they don't trust the men in there. Joe Ryan ought to come out himself.”

I remember that I made an appeal to Joe Ryan to go, and he said he wouldn't go for a million dollers. He just wasn't going to go out there. The men out on the coast could look after themselves. He had an office of the International Longshoremen's Union out there that could handle itself. There wasn't much membership, but there was a headquarters and if they wanted to join, they could go to that.

I tried to find out his reason for not wanting to go. I discovered from Edward McGrady, from Ernest Marsh, from Andrew Furuseth, from Paul scharrenberg, that Ryan had so many enemies he was afraid he'd get killed if he went out, and enemies among the working people. He wasn't afraid that the employers were going to shoot him, but he was afraid that the employers were going to take a potshot at him. I never did get the full story or the full background of it, because it didn't seem to be Important, but it went back to animosities that had arisen at the time of the 1916 strike, when there was a big element of the union who declared that Joe Ryan “sold