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The decision of the Supreme Court in Kessler v. Strecker was on June 12, 1939. By the time of the Supreme Court decision there had been an enormous avalanche of disapproval, which was interlarded, I may say, with a considerable amount of approval and sympathy. I was astonished at the number of persons who came to my support, rescue and so forth, saying that that was the right way to proceed.

When that decision came down I proceeded at once to act and go ahead with the trial of the Bridges case, but under circumstances which would make the ordinary routine departmental proceedings almost a farce.

Jackson's original position was that we should ask for a writ of certiorari, that Judge Hutcheson was right and that the court would so sustain it. That was his advice to us. There's no document to that effect so far as I remember, but that was the advice that he had. He later changed his position. I'm lost in the subtleties now of what point and under what circumstances he changed his view.