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that, as a matter of fact. I don't think any member of the Cabinet ever said a word to me about it, except Iokes once. Iokes, in his rough, grouchy kind of way, said, “Damn shame! Damn shame what you're going through!” That, of course, was tolerable. I said, “That's all right, Harold; it's part of the game, isn't it?”

“Yes, but this is unusually filthy,” he said.

Well, I think everybody felt that way about it. They stood by all right. No allusion was ever made to it in Cabinet meeting. Everyone acted as though nothing had happened.

Well, of course, it was in the midst of this that Father Wilfrid Parsons, out here at Georgetown University, wrote me a letter in which he said that he'd been asked questions about this thing, but that, of course, I knew that he knew that whatever I had done was lawful and proper. He believed that, but he would be glad if I could give him some information which would enable him to answer the letters and answer the questions which came to him about what I had done, and why I had done it. So, I wrote a letter to Father Persons, and that we gave to the press, with his permission.

J. V. Fitzgerald, who was the publicity officer of the Department was very disturbed about all this. I hate





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