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Then the CIO got to organizing. They organized in the usual way - a kind of big rally drive sort of thing. They picked up all the people who hadn't belonged to anything, making raids on the AF of L union, promising all sorts of things. It was a union, very active, very lively, held meetings all the time. They were a pest to the building cleaners because they were always staying after hours to hold a meeting somewhere or other. They began having meetings down in the cafeteria. That had gotten to be quite a racket. I don't know whether it was before or after the Miller case that I limited the hours that the cafeteria could be used. It was to be opened from seven in the morning until nine, exactly. There was more than one reason for that. Not only were they having meetings there lasting half the morning, but a good many people who didn't go to any union meeting would come in and report for duty in their offices at nine sharp, and then go down and get their breakfast in the cafeteria. Such a crowd of people started doing that that work really couldn't get underway in the mornings until they got back from breakfast. So I stopped that.

Then the afternoons were also bad times. These meetings would take place in the afternoon at about