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boot and shoe industry has left the well-regulated State of Massachusetts to go to New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine. They've just run right over the border of some other New England state where they introduce depressed conditions which would not be allowed in the states of Massachusetts and New York.”

Of course, the runaway shop had become a great grievance in New York State and New York City. The last two years I was Industrial Commissioner, after the depression began, the runaway shop was extensive. The runaway shop didn't begin to show up until after the great collapse. The plants that moved were ones that could be moved easily. I don't mean to say that a paper mill pulled out and moved to Vermont. Most industry, and a very large part of the industry, where the wages are low is what is known as light industry. You can pick up a garment trade factory. You've got sewing machines and power cutters. You can plug them into any electric light outlet. You can pack sewing machines into a truck and move on. The men who would do this would hire any old kind of a shed. Of course, in Connecticut, Pennsylvania, southern Vermont, or New Hampshire, there were lots of empty buildings, particularly in 1930.

I never heard of all this, though, until after