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Frank Walker and me. He was just beaming with that afflatus of success and pride. He said, “Well, we put it over. We put it over and don't you forget that.” ‘We’ meant himself and his cohorts.
Dubinsky came up then and said, “Wasn't it wonderful? Just remember now that labor did this. Franklin Roosevelt and Henry Wallace were nominated because labor supported them. Don't ever forget that.”
Dubinsky was jolly and laughing, sort of merry, whereas Hillman was all puffed up, swelled up, and deadly serious about it all. That's a difference in the type of man and personality. Dubinsky was taking it all in much better spirit as a politician. He was happy that he had been on the winning side.
I remember saying to Frank Walker then, “You see these fellows are always making sure that they're on the winning side.”
I think it was Walker who told me that neither Dubinsky nor Hillman had said anything to him about being for Wallace until it was well-known that the President wanted Wallace to be Vice President. We both laughed and chuckled at how clever they were at jumping on the bandwagon, and then trying to claim that they had done it.
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