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the weather, Washington gossip. We got to the end of our rope, but those two men still stayed in there. They came out finally and we had a little chat. The next morning the Chief Justice and Owen went in and talked again in the library. After lunch they went.”

I never asked Mrs. Roberts if she asked Owen what they talked about, because I know that whenever she asked Owen what they talked about, he always chucked her under the chin and said, “None of your business, my darling.” That was his regular way. I've known them both very, very well. He's devoted to his wife, but never from the earliest days of their married life did he talk over professional matters with her. I guess from experience he learned that she didn't understand them at all and wouldn't put her mind on it long enough to understand them.

At any rate, I know that happened and it was something very serious. The court convened in October. Within a few months there was another case that went up to them that autumn, which involved a peculiar child labor matter. It was a case that we had not realized was coming up. It came up from one of the states. The court sustained it by a 5-4 decision in favor of it.

I'm not sure it wasn't 6-3. Mr. Chief Justice Hughes and