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evidence, but I was speaking to the President and the members of the Cabinet at to what my impressions were of this trouble-maker.”

Then he went on and said something about Whittaker Chambers. He asked if I had read Whittaker Chambers' book. I said I had read most of it, or all I could stomach. He said, “Well, Chambers says that Witt was a Communist early. He mentions a lot of other people. Do you believe all that Whittaker Chambers has said?”

I said, “I haven't been able to bring myself to believe that he is necessarily the spokesman of all truth, but such things as he says as are verified by other sources, or by circumstances, I think I believe. I wouldn't believe his unsupported evidence about any individual.”

Henry said, “I think I feel that way too, but it's an interesting analysis.”

I changed the subject then because I didn't think it was good for Henry and me to be talking about that at that dinner. Next to him was sitting the wife of somebody. I don't remember who it was, but it was not anybody who belonged to his group or to his period in service in Washington. I thought she might hear this conversation, and it might be





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