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being devised as the way around the Supreme Court's position.

So when Mr. Justice McReynolds said this to me, I realized he was fishing. Also, after I went home that night, I remember that I sat down and thought it over. I found myself laughing a good deal to myself at how smart the old fox was. He had gotten me to a dinner party and was nice to me for the express purpose, first, of finding out, because he assumed that a woman would be a leak and would tell all if she was suitably and flatteringly approached, what the administration thought, and also he had taken the opportunity to plant an idea in my head - namely, retirement financial support for the Justices. At that time when they retired, they retired and just lived on half pensions. It was true that Van Devanter and Sutherland were very anxious to resign, but couldn't afford to. The Court had gotten full pensions on retirement, but these had been out in half by the economy bill of 1932.

However, Justice McReynolds had succeeded in putting this idea of the full pension in my head. There were plenty of rumors about what the President should do with the Court, but the matter wasn't clear. When Justice McReynolds asked me and I answered that there wasn't any





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