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young men, who came in to help Harold Smith perform more completely under Title II than he ever had before, had some set of rules in the back of their mind by which everything must pay for itself, everything must mesh just so. Their analysis of what should be done must be right, because they had applied the scientific method to it. There were times when one felt that they were just carrying out theoretical ideas.

Even Louis Brownlow was busily engaged in trying to reorganize the government. He completed with Harold Smith. He got there first. He was reorganizing the government before Harold Smith came in. There was quite a war between them. One of Donald Stone's first tales to me was that he was going to save the Department of Labor from the depredations of Louis Brownlow, who was already engaged in trying to break the Department of Labor up into pieces. He didn't want to destroy it, but he wanted to make it tend exclusively to the troubles of members of labor unions. He said to me with a smile on his face, “That's all this is for. Just fuss with the labor unions. Well, of course, fussing with the labor unions had been the last thing that the department was organized for. It was only that Louis Brownlow dreamed up that that would be a good way to have some department just engaged in being very partial to them, looking after their troubles, but not having anything to do with any laws for improving the conditions of the working people, any humanitarian aspects, certainly not the Employment