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I'm not sure that we were in the war. Anyhow, that was it. Anyway, that was the last time I'd seen Julius Holmes until I heard about his exploit of wading ashore and taking secret messages to Darlan.

You know the business of - I don't know who has written it. Has anybody written it? Is there anything in Roosevelt's notes to indicate a kind of personal connection between him and Darlan? On account of Darlan once having a son who was an infantile paralysis cripple?

Well, he did, you see. He had a son who had had infantile paralysis. There was always a question as to whether Darlan was loyal to the French or whether he had really given his heart to the Germans. I think it's been cleared up, but I don't know who cleared it up or how. Hasn't it been cleared up? Don't people feel pretty certain that Darlan was faithful to the French, and doing what he could do?

Because DeGaulle damned him so, but you never know whether he just wasn't agreeing with DeGaulle, or what. Anyhow, Julius Holmes thought Darlan was all right. And among other things, you see, Darlan and the President had been in correspondence or communication somehow, either through a third party or by written letter, about this boy's being brought over here to go to Warm Springs. The President had invited him to come (Darlan's son), and he did come, and he did go to Warm Springs. He received treatment from