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Frances Perkins - Interview 94 side 2 - 3 May, 1955 - 2127 LeRoy Place N.W., Washington, D.C. This interview taken on a tape-recorder.

Interviewer:

When you say the Army really wanted to take over the mines, was Stimson as bellicose as all that about the matter?

Perkins:

Was Stimson Secretary of War then? Yes. He was quite bellicose, but it was not Stimson. It was the Army itself, I mean the uniformed force and officers, But Stimson was quite bellicose with regard to John L. Lewis. Oh, very!

When he had been Attorney-General--wasn't he Attorney-General?

Interviewer:

No, he was Secretary of War; Secretary of State under Hoover. I don't think he ever was Attorney-General.

Perkins:

Well, I think he was. That's my memory. I'm pretty sure he was, because how would this case of this “murderous power that grew up in the United Mine Workers” have otherwise arisen? He said to me, “I just don't see how you can tolerate Lewis or have anything to do with him. I know him to be guilty of murder, and if you would have these things looked up, he could be prosecuted. He could be prosecuted even now. The statue of limitations has not run against





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