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whirled around to. He'd talked just enough that I knew he was in oil. He'd talked just enough kind of privately-- the oil this and the oil that, and so forth--that I got a kind of a feeling that--well, I just would rather not be his dinner guest, you know? You don't be in the position of accepting any favors. It was an unspoken thing, but I did say it to Mary LaDame, “No, I don't want to go. We'll have him come here. We'll make a dinner party. We'll have a good party here at the club.”

It was all perfectly cordial and friendly, but there was just a little unctuousness about him, a little oily feeling about him. Whether I thought he was going to offer me a bribe or not, I don't know. But you had the feeling he might, you know. There was something of that kind of person about him, He was a very queer person in some ways.

Now, how he ever got East, I don't know. But somebody was pressuring Roosevelt to appoint him--I think Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, wasn't it? Yes. Roosevelt knew nothing about Pauley, except that--Hannegan was still operating, wasn't he?--Hannegan wanted him, and he was a state committeemen.

I remember I overheard this, after a Cabinet meeting when I was waiting to see Roosevelt. I was at the end of the line. I sat way down at the end of the table, so as not to