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no. Well, of course Roosevelt was obviously broadening the basis of the support for the War, and he tended, as everybody does, you see, who stays long in Washington, to think in terms of the people who are around.

Now, Ed Pauley came into the picture as a committeeman, state committeeman in California. Didn't he? Yes. He was a state committeeman, and it was a purely local thing. No, why he cherished ambitions and what they wore, I don't know. I mean, he was just a committeeman. I met him out in California. He was a state committeeman, and he came to meet me and he gave a little dinner--or did I give a little dinner? Yes, I gave the little dinner, because I gave it at my club. I always got myself put up at the Women's Athletic Club in San Francisco. It's a very nice club, and you don't get entangled in local situations if you can go to a club, as much as you do if you go to a hotel.

I remember I had just brains enough to say, “Now, you dine with me--you and Mrs Pauley and your sister and three or four others. I want to have the dinner.”

So I had them at the club, and it was a very nice dinner they did for us. They were greatly excited about it. I had just brains enough to see it. I'd been with him the day before, some way. He'd taken us somewhere and showed us something, and we'd gone to a ship launching with him, you know, and so forth. You never know exactly what you're being