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to a point where he thought, I think, very little, except for convenience and comfort, about such situations. I mean, I've told you my own efforts to resign at this time. It was not anything except his own convenience and comfort. He didn't want to be bothered--you know? He didn't want to be harrassed by making another selection. He didn't know what to do. I know how he felt, exactly. I've often felt that way. I want a given situation to go on because it's good enough and it doesn't bother me, you know. He had very much that attitude at this time. He was tired, undbubtedly, and his mind was on the War and an all kinds of intricacies that were going on in the War, and of course on the whole question of the Charter of the United Nations and the whole preparation for the peace, which was a very consuming idea to him. He was full of that, and he felt very overburdened. And I think that he listened when other people began to put up a fight and say to him, “Wallace will never do. We've got to get somebody else, and you've got to be re-elected and we've got to get another man. There's no sense trying to drag Wallace along.”

I'm sure that was the kind of thing that the Hannegan type of politician put over to him, and he would say, “Oh, all right, all right.”

I'm not sure he would have said it if Henry Wallace