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Frances Perkins - Interview 96, side 1-9 May, 1955 - 2127 DeRoy Place N.W., Washington, D.C. This interview taken on a tape-recorder.

When did I go to see Henry Wallace and why did I feel it was necessary for me to warn him against certain labor people? It was while he was Vice President, because my picture memory shows me going up to the Hill and going into that office of his on the back side of that same office building.

What transpired, and why did you do it?

I went up because I was troubled that certain labor people whom I knew to be fancy people were seeing a great deal of him, and he was sending for them to come and talk with him about various things. It would get into the Press-- a little bit, not much--but other people reported it, that Henry Wallace had seen so-and-so, and Dubinsky thinks, and Wallace didn't agree with him; Lee Pressman believes, and Bernie Baldwin was up there seeing him then, and Clint Golden-- who is a good fellow, but a little bit fancy; he's pretty nearly recovered from it now.

Of course, there was a great reliance upon Sidney Hillman. I mean, he saw Hillman frequently. Well, I don't remember who the others were. But at any rate, I went up to see him and to say to him, “Be awfully careful how you deal with these labor people. They're all right, they're first class people, and they have their place in the scheme of things, but they will