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through all that period. I may have seen him once, but just in passing somewhere. I was out of sympathy with it and could only bewail it as a mistake, but I couldn't tell him that. It was nothing to me. I mean, I had no right to say, “You shouldn't have done this.” I hadn't been asked.

He was certainly in a very exalted frame of mind, through this period. He live very exalte.

Did you feel that in December of '46?

No, no, no. When he got to being in the Progressive Party as their leader, he lived exalte, and I don't think he saw what was going on. I don't think he noticed it. I mean, he just lived in his own idea of what these people were and what they would do. But they proved exactly what they would do, and they proved that I was right--that they would run from him the minute he was no longer riding high. They'd run away and leave him. They didn't bail him out.

I know nothing more about that whole episode. I can't shed much light on it. I think that his divergence into the Progressive party came later, although he'd been seeing these people.

It must have come as a complete surprise to you, then?

Well, it did and it didn't, because I remember