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I could. He was polite. We stayed about two hours. It was a long interview--partly, of course, because of the delay of interpretation. Mr. Gambs was with me, and Gambs occasionally spoke in French to Gromyko, which he didn't seem to understand much better than he understood English-- although he did make one reply in French, I remember--a very brief reply. But he did not speak English at all during the interview.

I asked him, as the Secretary of State had advised me to, specifically to forward this memorandum to his Government, and to accompany it by a recommendation of his own based upon the explanations that I had given him and the arguments that I had laid before him.

I think he said, “Do you know if this matter was taken up by the Secretary of State when he was in Moscow?”

I said it was my belief that it had been taken up, but that no conclusions had been reached. I put it as delicately as I knew how--“no conclusions had been reached”--and said that I therefore urged Gromyko to forward this memorandum to his Government as quickly as possible with his recommendation that the Russians should support the I.L.O. and that they should expect and anticipate becoming a member of it. That was that, for that interview. We made our good-byes and withdrew. We were well noticed all down through the corridor and hall. There were plenty of men standing around to