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this labor representation. In their eyes, the labor unions and the employers' unions are all the same thing as the Government. I recognized that this was a problem. I tried to lay it out without specifically referring to the Russians.

We went into the whole question of the previous membership of Russia in the I.L.O. Russia had been a member of the I.L.O. by virtue of being a member of the League of Nations--because at that time, at the time of the League of Nations, a nation that joined the League of Nations automatically secured membership in the I.L.O. That had been under the League of Nations. That, of course, had broken down and was over, and there would have to be some new arrangement made in the new set-up. I pointed that out. There would undoubtedly be a new arrangement.

When Russia had joined the League of Nations, not too long before the bust-up, she had not specifically joined the I.L.O., but had had automatic membership in it, which she never took up or enjoyed. In other words, Russia never sent a delegate. They never came to the I.L.O. She just was given information. The reports went to Russia, but they never took any part in the I.L.O. or came to any of the meetings, nor offered any suggestions. It was purely pro forma, so far as they were concerned.

I went into that, and pointed out what the relationship had been and what it might be in the future. I did the best





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