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in agreement with it: that we desired the Russians to support the I.L.O., we desired the Russians to enter the I.L.O., in fact we urged them to, and we determined that the I.L.O. should be independent of the United Nations, although fully cooperating with it, and that it should raise its budget money on a separate basis, Although the accounting for its funds would go through the accounting of the United Nations, it would have a separate budget and would operate on a separate budget to determine how the money was to be spent and how many employees to do this and how many research workers, and where the headquarters were to be, and so forth. It would have its own programs. There would be no ability of the United Nations to check the program of the I.L.O. They select their own program, they decide upon it, and they have no one else to consult. It's an extremely useful enterprise. That was what we were instructed to carry through at San Francisco.

I prepared many of the memeranda which the people who went to San Francisco used. I did not go to San Francisco.

Whom did you send to San Francisco, out of the Department?

I can't remember now. Undoubtedly John Gambs went. He wouldn't be Number One man. He wouldn't be head of the delegation.