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Here he was, an eighteen year old boy, regarded as a V.I.P. Lascelles, Princess Mary's son and grandson of the King of England, was captured and made a military prisoner. These two boys--they were eighteen or nineteen years old--they did have a dreadful time, you know, because it was psychologically terribly disturbing to them. They hadn't plotted the War. They hadn't had anything to do with the politics of it, but they were picked up as military prisoners and carted around here and there, always being taken off and put behind special bars and given special troubles. They finally landed in the same prison where Jouhaux was.

Well, to the Quebec Conference, which was held Just after VE Day, Leon Jouhaux appeared. That was a meeting of the governing body, not a meeting of the whole I.L.O. I spoke of this merely to show that the I.L.O. had been very active and had laid down the pattern that it wanted followed in the meeting at San Francisco.

I wanted to complete my story about what my relations with the Russian Ambassador were, and what we finally did about the I.L.O. There was no more with the Ambassador. Let me get the I.L.O. through. I merely cited these meetings of the I.L.O. on this side of the ocean to indicate that we had had ample opportunity to consult with the official body of the I.L.O., and the official governing body, about what the I.L.O. would insist upon at San Francisco, and we were