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I said, “Oh, Mr. President, you mustn't do that! It's very dangerous. It's terribly dangerous. Why, the minute they knew you're at sea, you know there'll be a dead set of every submarine that Germany owns to get you. You mustn't do it. It's very dangerous.”

He said, “It isn't going to be until May. We're going in May.”

“Well, I know, but that'll be just as bad,” I said.

“Frances--the War will be over then.”

Interviewer:

And he was right.

Perkins:

Oh, he knew it. I said, “Are you sure?”

“I know it,” he said. “The War will be over. We are going to make a State visit in England.”

Interviewer:

This isn't known, is it?

Perkins:

I don't know.

Interviewer:

That he even intended to go to England.

Perkins:

He did. That's what he said. “We're going to make a State visit in England. The War will be over.”

Yes--I wrote it in my book. It's never been disputed. I think it is in the book.

I remember thinking, “My heavens, what's he talking





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