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“I haven't heard from Mr. Schwellenbach. I've had no communication from him.”

It was a very crazy way to do things, but that was the way he behaved. So I felt some uneasiness. I did not feel exactly right about this transfer, because he was absolutely unwilling to give me any information about himself or about his purposes or about his plans. No conference, no nothing, not even any exchange of letters that would be illuminating. We were Always hearing from John Steelman. Steelman called up once or twice to say that Mr. Schwellenbach wanted this. So I called John Steelman in and said, “What is this?”

He said, “Well, Sbhwellenbach's asked me to help him, and I thought perhaps I ought to.”

This sounds as though I think Steelman is a hypocrite and to some extent he may be, but not much of a one. I mean, he's a pretty good fellow. He said, “I thought perhaps I could be of more help to you if I helped him a little, and of course I want to help you.”

Well, that was very false. He didn't want to help me, and I knew it. He was looking to the next regime. This business of helping Schwellenbach was self-appointed. He wanted to get into the White House, was where he wanted to get, and he eventually got there and he cooked Schwellenbach's goose good and plenty when he did.

We could not make out--I could not make out--none of the