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and nights. Now, I've always thought that he perhaps made it that way by talking too much himself, but there was this terrible effort for a punctilious, particular set of words that would mean the same thing to everybody, and then their adoption.

Well, of course, a set of words never means the same thing to everybody. Every man reads into it what he thinks it means. If you can get a large general statement, that's better than a particular one. I remember saying at one time when he was negotiating this agreement that he'd better make it general and not too particular.

“Oh no, it must be very particular, so that we can be guided by it, so that no one will go astray, so that in every employment office in this country they can have this that and the other thing, just exactly the way it says in the policy.”

Well, they finally arrived at something. The labor unions were about to knock down everybody. We finally arrived at something, and I remember that we adopted it rather hastily, on Flemming's say-so that it would be acceptable. It was, except that in the employment offices (as I went around the country, I always went to the employment offices to see how things were going) I discovered that they didn't pay any attention to it, because they had to work with the realities





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