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Hoover and with his number two man whose name I now forget, but who is an excellent person, I respect them. I had one occasion when I had one case before me, a loyalty case, in which I was very doubtful of the evidence. I just didn't believe the evidence of T 27 or T 22 or whoever it was. And that was all there was. The girl was a plain Jane. She was recommended to me by the Council of Jewish Women to see if I couldn't do something for her. They felt sure she was all right. So she came to see me, and she was a very plain Jane, just as homely as she could be, but she was well educated and clear in what she said to me, and she vowed she'd had nothing to do with any of this thing, she didn't know what she was talking about, and so forth.

I felt a little bit doubtful of the evidence before me because she seemed so patently honest and simple, and because the Council of Jewish Women was a very conservative organization and wouldn't be backing her otherwise. I telephoned--I didn't telephone, I spoke to Mr. French on the telephone, and then I sent somebody over to see him, I guess Mr. Melloy. I'm not sure it was Mr. French. That's my first impression. He's the number two man. I think I asked Melloy to go to see him and tell him what this situation was, and that I wanted to talk with him.

So Melloy did, and then he came over to see me, and of