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course none of this was put in writing. The number two man came over. I wanted to see either Mr. Hoover or the number two man, I didn't care which, and I think Hoover was in the West. Anyhow, the number two man knew all about this case.

So he came over to see me, and we closed the door, and I said to him that it happened to be a matter of considerable importance to me to know what this situation was; that I respected their necessity for protecting their witnesses, but what in the world was this information that T 27 had? How did T 27 get this information? Who was he.

Well, he was one of our agents.

But how did he get this information?

Then he said, “Well, this is the exact information. This young woman telephoned to a man in this city”--I think it was Gregory Silvermaster, not then known as anything to the world in general, but known to the F.B.I. all right as the key to the network. “She came over to a hearing before the Civil Service Commission on her loyalty report. She left the Commission. She went out onto the street, went into a drugstore to a public telephone, and telephoned to this man on whom we have had a tap for years. She telephoned to him and she said, ‘Well, I've had my hearing. I made a good impression. I think I'm in the clear. I don't think they caught on to a thing. I've absolutely carried the case.’

“And he said to her, ‘Well, be very careful, be very