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if he had that kind of opportunity that he would support it and encourage it and even work within it?
May I answer your question by a question?
Yes.
Why hasn't he?
Has he had the opportunity?
Well, you make that opportunity.
In other words, why didn't he find somebody like Ray Jones or a force like Ray Jones?
If I look at-- and again I'm not communicating directly from Olympus, because I have had no contact with Olympus-- I do not see among Jesse's associates stable, thoughtful, tough or organizational political people. I don't. I mean, even during his campaign, the dominant force in Jesse's campaign was Jesse. And I would think that it would be sort of difficult for Jesse to work with thoughtful, critical people. I would think so. Certainly I have no personal experience. I know a few people who were as close to him as they could get. I mean, for example, one was Roger Wilkins. But frankly I don't know how much influence
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