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It's really self-monitoring then?

Self-monitoring.

And then, of course, not all American subsidiaries have subscribed to those principles, have they?

That's right. By the way, the Sullivan group met yesterday. The academic institutions, the colleges and universities, are being pressured into taking a harder look at their investments in terms of companies doing business in South Africa.

Would their investments be of sufficient scope to have any great influence?

Symbolic influence.

Have you had any more clients since that time that called on you for at least consultant services relative to South Africa?

Well, the South African company that sought to get the cooperation of the American company asked me right after that if I would be a consultant for them. And I said no. The public relations company-- the American public relations company that works for the South African government asked me and practically