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Do you feel that Clarence Mitchell would have been a good
Executive Secretary, a good leader?
He certainly was an excellent lobbyist. I felt that in
the last few years of his life, when he overlapped Roy's
successor, Benjamin Hooks, he didn't seem to me to have the
courage to say what was to me quite obvious, that Benjamin Hooks
was incompetent. But maybe by that time he'd sort of given up.
I don't recall whether I asked you whether you had ever had
any dealings with Louis Martin.
Oh, sure. A great deal.
Who fairly recently, a few years ago, was portrayed by the
WASHINGTON POST in, I believe, its Style Section as the godfather
of the Black Caucus.
He may have been. He's a very balanced, realistic
person. I wish he had more influence on them now than he appears
to. I don't know. Okay?
Okay. Another specific question coming-- something that
happened fairly recently, I believe I saw your name on a program
for the fund-raising dinner for the Paul Robeson scholarship,
legal scholarship fund.
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