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Yes. I made a contribution to it.

Now when that fund was established three or four years ago, it was my understanding from the reports that it was the students themselves that decided it should be named after Paul Robeson. Was that your understanding?

Well, the communication came from his son to me, and I didn't know where it started, but I didn't care. I mean, I thought it was long overdue for Paul Robeson to be recognized for the personage that he was. I understand that even Rutgers now has come back to recognizing him as a distinguished alumnus. Took them a long time.

Yes, of course. He trained as a lawyer, he couldn't get a job as a lawyer.

That's right.

Now at that first fund-raiser, one of the persons attending, who expressed outrage at the name, was a person who was either famous or notorious, depending on your viewpoint, the lawyer Roy Cohn, former protege of--

McCarthy.