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wanted. And Charlie was not re- elected. And I kept in
correspondence with Charlie. He's still alive too.
You mentioned how segregated the schools remain in certain
cities. I believe you mentioned Yonkers among them.
And New York.
And New York. You excluded Buffalo.
Buffalo is an example of a pretty realistic desegregation
of the schools. I've visited some of the schools up there.
Is this continued segregation, and even increased segregation
where it exists, the consequence of failure of desegregation moves,
or was there some desegregation and then resegregation?
Did you complete everything you wanted to say about possible
resegregation of the schools?
Well, I wanted to say that-- yes, there has been
resegregation, but the determinant of resegregation as I see it is
that we have not really had effective, firm, committed approaches
to desegregation, and the whole problem started to get enmeshed in
the non-issue of busing, which to me is a way of dealing with the
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