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I don't know. I don't know what was behind them. I don't know the type of supportive or ancillary services--I do know that I don't see that they have proliferated.

Well, certainly not since the death--not since the assassination of Malcolm X.

Yes.

But I understand that they had these businesses going in several parts of the country.

That's what I understand.

Chicago, Detroit, even out on the west coast. San Francisco and/ or Los Angeles. I've been told that they apparently were making money.

Well, I don't know how much.

Well, they were small businesses.

Yes. I don't know, for example, whether they had distributorships or whether they supplied their businesses by their own, whatever the bases are for what they were selling. Did they produce those things? I don't know. There are a lot of things I