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developed to curb the hostility of leaders.

And human beings in general.

And human beings in general, but I think--

I was focusing on leadership.

This is New York Times, September 4, 1971, but you did put this also in the context of, as the Times reported it, “To eliminate inhumanity and the threat of nuclear war.” You said that conventional means--this is not a quote, this is as Boyce Rensburger, their correspondent, reported it, that conventional means of accomplishing those purposes were just too slow to ensure survival of the human species in a nuclear age. Have you had any more recent thoughts about that proposal where you hold to it as you expressed it then?

I believe that it's impractical in that the decision makers would be the ones that would have to do this, you see, and obviously they don't see themselves as the way I saw them, as playing Russian and American roulette.

Now, in a condensation from The Drive for Power by Arnold A. Hutshnecker who was sometimes has been popularly characterized as Richard Nixon's therapist, but here says that he's refused to discuss Nixon as a patient. But he did address himself to this whole