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Who, of course, was also a scholar. Has he expressed anything recently to you on the American racial situation?

No, not since our joint seminar. He has not been well, and I understand he has come to America a couple of times since then, but I haven't seen him. We were supposed to do a book together but he wasn't well enough. Why did you ask me that?

Because of the areas of mutual concern.

Oh, I see. He was very pessimistic about America when we doing that seminar together, and I was more optimistic than he. That was before the neo-conservative drive.

And politically, wasn't he socialistically inclined in the Swedish context?

I guess so, yes.

I might repeat a quote from him, in somewhat a different context than we're talking. It's not America anyway. This is when I was researching the food and population problem in lesser developed areas. The Green Revolution had occurred which against all informed predictions at the time. In fact, I was under contract to write a book on the premise there would have to be a triage. But I had to know how Gunnar Myrdal felt about the tremendous gains in the new grain crops in India, the Philippines, Mexico, elsewhere. I caught