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these became ingredients in the self-image of Negro children. And I pursued this. I was concerned with racial attitudes, and then, when I-- when my wife was (?) I and my wife were developing the clinic at Northside Center-- and by the way, I think that you should talk with her some time -- where she had opted for using her training as a psychologist, not within the academic setting, but directly toward helping Negro children, who were likely to become casualties of a racist society. And she was setting up Northside Center not for research purposes, but for practical, applied, clinical services -- I was helping her, but having this competing with my academic interests, and my contribution at Northside was research. I mean, looking at the extent to which this clinical approach could ameliorate some of the detriment of racism.

And it was therefore natural for me to move from that kind of approach at Northside, you know, to HARYOU, where I looked at the pressures of the community -- a racially segregated community -- on the extent to which young people could or could not fulfill their more positive potentials. This YOUTH IN THE GHETTO and DARK GHETTO -- the next step that I took from the one to one clinical approach to trying to help human beings by my discipline.

And I guess what it reflected was a growing impatience with the clinical approach, as having significance beyond limited numbers of individuals, youknow. I was always glad that there were people who were concerned with trying to help the individual. But the longer I stayed at Northside, and the more I read, and observed, the complex ways in which race was affecting human beings, the more impatient I became with the usual ways of dealing with and trying to help human





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