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gotten about three, four hundred thousand, something like that. And I said, now, I need a top level staff, to match or top this.

And I must confess that I was content, in the early stages, to match the Mobilization for Youth grant from the President's Committee on Juvenile Delinquency.

Well, by this time, the politicoes had gotten into the conspiracy coming out of the restlessness of the natives, and Adam Powell was chairman of the House Committee on Education and Labor. His was the committee that really was in charge of the appropriations here. Adam, even in the early planning stage, sent some of his emissaries to determine the extent to which I would be cooperative. And I always -- you know, no matter what you might have read or heard about my relationship with Adam, I always loved him. He was a lovable scoundrel. And he considered me a lovable, naive, child-like creature.

These initial invitations, through Adam, were politely, affectionately, jokingly, affably rebuffed, by me, and Adam knew that he had the power to set up his own group, and left us alone. Adam was -- you know, he was one of the most under-rated public figures in our nation. Adam had the ability to bide his time -- specifically, what I mean is that after he saw that his initial attempts to -- well, co-opt me into his political approach to this problem -- he didn't persist, then.

Other politicoes had to be involved in the advisory group that we were bringing together, for this community-wide approach to designing a program for delinquency control, and among them were just people as J. Raymond Jones, whom I met and got to know for the