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problems trying to walk a tightrope between Lyndon Johnson and Bobby Kennedy as it is.”

He really gave me a brilliant lesson in practical, corrupt politics-- without biding his time, without mincing words, you know.

Then he came to Raymond Jones, and said to me, “You know, the only person you have on your side is J. Raymond Jones, but it doesn't matter, because he has no power.”

He gave the impression that Ray was a ridiculous figure -- you know -- his time had passed, and he had no base. He could afford to give me verbal support because it had no significance.

Well, it just so happened that I liked Ray Jones as a person, and I said to him, “I think that Ray is one of the most solid political figures I know.”

He said, “That doesn't matter.”

Well, we ended that conversation with my understanding very clearly what Adam was saying, and with his understanding that I was a child, naive. He said, “Look, if you ever change your mind, the offer is still open.”

I said, “Adam, I'm not going to change my mind.”

And then, interestingly enough, we started talking about his son, who was at MIT at the time. Adam was like every other father, you know, totally identified with his son.

As I was saying, I'll never forget that last part of the conversation, because there was Adam, Dr. Jekyll, really -- warm and passionate, identified with his son, and he offered to drive me up to the university. I had to go back to the board meeting.