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He drove me up, and the whole time, from Capitol Hill to the university, Adam was talking about his son and education, and his son's aspirations, and the fact that he will do everything he could to --

Now, I loved him, in a way. He was warm -- a warm person.....

I was saying, that it seems contradictory, my describing, you know, the explicit invitation to corruption which Adam made to me, and, on the other hand, my saying that I found him someone whom I liked, you know. It's difficult for me to reconcile this, except to tell you that, during this very serious discussion, we didn't call each other names.

As a psychologist, obviously I was interested in Adam as a phenomenon. And I was not really certain that he wasn't right, in his -- this is long before Watergate -- in his description of the corrupt cynical realities that were normative for American politics. I wasn't saying, “Look, Adam, you and only you alone are corrupt here,” because I wasn't that naive.

And as things turned out, I saw a great deal of substantiating evidence that Adam was the most honest of the respectable corrupt politicians, you know; that he came right out and told me what the situation was and what the realities were. I was getting double talk from the others. The others protected their image of honest man, man of integrity. I'm afraid that, you know, when I read THE FINAL DAYS and other books on Watergate, I'm disturbed at myself for not being appalled, not being aghast, you know. I'm disturbed at the fact that I believe that William Saffire has a case -- that it's a kind