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No, and I don't think that Ray should have been shocked
or surprised, because they'd been having arguments and conflicts
off and on.
Now, when the black civil rights leaders, called for a while the
Big Six, were working -- also, about this time I believe -- there was
also, some time after, A. Philip Randolph organized his Negro
American Labor Council -- Powell got up on the streets at a mass rally
in Harlem and said the only reason Randolph was doing this was because
his own union was creaking, and he had to do this to restore his power.
Now, this was at a time when the civil rights leaders needed support.
First of all, were you aware of this particular public attack or
this kind of public attack?
I don't remember that one specifically, but Adam was, you
know, able to say whatever he wanted to say about any of the civil
rights leaders, and no one of them would be immune, with the possible
exception of Martin Luther King, and I'm not even sure of that.
I've heard him attack Martin Luther King.
Right. I never heard him attack Malcolm X.
I was going to bring up Malcolm. They briefly had a working
relationship, but that fell apart, too.
Yes. Well, any working arrangement with Adam would eventually
have to fall apart, unless the person were totally subordinate to him.
And by the way, I knew that too.
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