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though. When you were looking for a verb to describe the effect of Mangum's taking over
and leading this group, first you felt that “contamination” was too
strong, and then you used the word “change.” Would you say maybe he
kind of diluted the vigor of it? Would that be an accurate characterization of what you
were getting at?
Yeah. Why did you come back to that? I guess so -- except that it really had no vigor. It
was like a newborn, so it couldn't be just a dilution of the vigor, because there wasn't
much vigor to dilute. It seemed to me too much of an instrument of his own personal
ambitions, early, and I think was so perceived by others, and/hence the slowness of its
Also, I believe in BLACK GHETTO, you made a --
DARK GHETTO -- I was going to ask you about these adjectives, too -- but anyway, you made
reference to the fact that after it got larger, it was “impotent in
crisis”, and I got the impression that it was not necessarily impotent in
crisis before it expanded. Is that true?
No, before it expanded -- you mean the Group, or?
You mean the Ben Dyett group?
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