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Yes. I'd like to have that.
I've just come back from lunch with Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. He's doing a book on the
Kennedys, particularly Bobby Kennedy, I think, and we spent the last two hours, plus-- I
thought maybe we'd be through in an hour, hour and a half, but we talked at length about
my recollection of the Kennedys and that whole period of HARYOU and the President's
Committee on Juvenile Delinquency. And we're both going to be down in Austin, Texas this
weekend, he presenting a paper at the LBJ Library, I think, and I with the -- he's
presenting his paper on Sunday. I'll be presenting mine on Monday, and this is a paper on
“The Social Programs of the Johnson-Kennedy Administration,” so I'll
give you a copy of that too.
It seems as if every time you come here, I have some paper that I'm working on that has
nothing to do with my business, my past career, it seems.
I think it's part of your oral history, your memoirs.
Really? My wife says that I'm devoting more time to my academic and prior social action
concerns than I am to the immediate needs of the business, and if I continue to do that, I
probably won't have a business. But as I've said in this paper that I'm going to develop
or deliver, at the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library, one of the disturbing things about the
Johnson Administration and its “Great Society” and Anti-Poverty
Program was that we never really did solve the problem of how to have both guns and
butter, and in that conflict, guns seem to have won out. And we have a similar
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