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what this is -- they're there. I came to terms with them. And I don't think I would feel comfortable with another style.

And that's a highly selfish thing to say, but it's --

I went through the risk. I took all the God damn chances. And I'm here, at 62-- clobbered, but -- here I am! And enjoying my life, and enjoying where I am, and enjoying the challenge of this new venture. I hope it succeeds. If it doesn't succeed, Mamie and I are not going to be destitute, you know.

I don't know though, you know -- I think I hinted any number of times, in my discussions with you, the role of an optimum degree of economic security, in our capacity to be independent. I think that is a factor. I mean, -- yeah-- at no time in my professional or personal career, did I ever have to stop and argue with myself about whether I should take a particular position, or make a given public statement, in terms of the consequences of being deprived of a job or economic base for my family or something. At no time.

For one thing, I was always arrogant enough to believe that I could always get a job. I mean, I always felt that. But the other thing is that Mamie's family and my own background converged to make economic determinants of style of life not be determinant of, you know -- of our style of life, of what we did. I mean, that we knew that that was protected, and certainly that's true for my children and grandchildren. I want them -- whatever character flaws they have, I don't want them influenced by anxiety about their economic security, see. Because I've seen too many people who