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Yes, before college. Maybe late high school. I mean, when it
was time to go to college, and when you began to broaden your outlook
and think about what you wanted to do with life, where you were going
to go next. I think it was that time.
Up through high school, what kinds of studies interested you most?
I liked everything. I really did like everything. I liked
everything, and I was very good in math, and I decided to major in
math when I went to college, which is what I started out to do.
But I loved it. The school was poor, and later I realized how much
we didn't learn. For example, there was one point when I realized
I had learned no English grammar - - none. And I had learned no
history. But those gaps, you weren't aware of when you were coming
through high school. But you could look back and see that the school
was very poor. There was hardly anything you really learned.
What was the college you went to?
Were there any whites in the university at that time?
At that time -- no. No.
When you described your discovery that you had not learned
some of these essentials, was this relative to some of the other
students' level of attainment? Or just because --
-- oh yes, indeed. No, no, it was relative to the fact that I
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