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thought, I didn't know what I'd missed, so when I got to college, I enrolled in courses like physics and mathematics, literature, things like that. And then when I got in these classes, I realized that people were saying things I'd never heard of before. And people were -- it was worse in English. It was just worse there. Just total blocks of this language that I didn't know, really. It was horrible.

As far as the students who were far enough along not to feel this gap -- among them were there also Southern blacks, or were these predominantly Northern blacks?

There were also Southern blacks. There were also Southern blacks, but it was the Northern ones and the Western ones who had the knowledge and the information, and there were enough of them in the class.

As you recall it, did most of them go to integrated schools in the North and West?

In the North, yes. Now, in the West, I would suppose so, yes. I would guess so, yes, particularly in California at the time and Colorado, I would guess so.

I suppose at that time there was probably a much lower percentage of blacks in the West than today.

Of course. Yes.