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Probably even in California, at that time --

I'm sure, hum mm --

Well, what did you do to make up these deficiencies?

Well, I had to study harder. I really did. I went to summer school. I went to summer school the first two summers when I was in college, to make up the deficiencies. I went to Arkansas State College, and I finally was able to overcome them. But I was taking five courses in summer school, and that's a lot of course in summer school.

How would that be in units, by usual standards? or hours a week?

It would be about ten hours a week in classes alone. No, more than that, because I was going every day. It was a condensed kind of thing, in summer, at Arkansas State. It was a short period, but you went to classes all day long, and it was hot.

Now, when you started out majoring in math -- but then you switched to psychology at some point? Did you have any other switch before you switched to psychology?

No. I was in mathematics when I met my husband. And he was in psychology. And at that time, I was having difficulty with a teacher, a math teacher, and he persuaded me that I shouldn't stay in there, that I would never get by this man. He was head of the mathematics department. And I had made A's in math, but he consistent gave me a C, for two semesters, and I just got depressed and