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set very right with some of the people that we talked to, who were mostly white.

Incidentally, you understand that you can put any restriction on any part of this that you want.

Yes, from your letter, yes.

So if we do get into any sensitive questions like this, from the standpoint of history --

-- you can cut it out if you like --

Well, it should be there, for history, but you can even seal it for whatever term you choose yourself. Do that after you've read what you've said.

You mentioned going to other blacks for support. You mentioned black organizations, the Urban League and the NAACP. But do I understand correctly that at the time you were seeking their support, there was also a feeling, on the part of the more militant blacks at least, that these were “Uncle Tom” groups, that these blacks really were fronts for white organizations?

At that time, that was probably true. I mean, we couldn't stop to consider that, in the sense that we were desperate to set up a service, and we recognized, we had to go to everybody. We couldn't just go to whites. We had two go to blacks too. We didn't hope for much from the Urban League, but we had to go there and discuss it with them. And indeed, itpaid off in much later years, in the